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[Cult / Occult] Endless Genealogies And Foolish Questions
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John Henry
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Mar 18, 2005 15:19 PST
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<b><br>
</b><div align="center"> <b>ENDLESS GENEALOGIES AND FOOLISH
QUESTIONS<br>
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(The Absence of Ahaziah, Azariah, and Joash in Matthew One) <br>
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Neither give heed to . . . endless genealogies, which minister
<i>QUESTIONS</i> rather than godly edifying which is <i>IN FAITH</i>: SO
DO.
– 1 Tim. 1:4<br>
<br>
. . .
<i>AVOID FOOLISH QUESTIONS</i>, and <i>GENEALOGIES </i>. . . for they are
<i>UNPROFITABLE</i> and <i>VAIN</i> . . . – Titus 3:9<br>
<br>
After
this lived Job a hundred and forty years, and saw his sons, and his sons’
sons, even four <i>GENERATIONS</i> <i>[since there are no names, can
hardly be called genealogies]</i> . . . --Job 42:10<br>
<br>
. . .
from henceforth <i>ALL GENERATIONS</i> shall call me blessed <i>[since no
names are given, hardly can be called genealogies]</i>. . .--Luke
1:48<br>
<br>
. . . There shall no sign be given to <i>THIS GENERATION [hardly a
genealogy]</i>. –Mark
8:12<br>
<br>
The
Book of the <i>GENERATION</i> <i>[hardly gap less]</i> of Jesus Christ,
the son of David, the son of Abraham. – Matt. 1:1<br>
<br>
And
the number of them, <i>after their GENEALOGY by their
GENERATIONS</i> . . . was . . . twenty thousand and two hundred<i>
[an obvious distinction is made between a genealogy and a
generation]</i>. -- 1 Chron. 7:9<br>
<br>
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was <i>MADE OF THE SEED
OF DAVID ACCORDING TO THE FLESH</i> . . . --Rom. 1:3<br>
<br>
So all
the<i> GENERATIONS</i> from Abraham to David are <i>FOURTEEN
GENERATIONS</i>; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are
<i>FOURTEEN GENERATIONS</i>; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto
Christ are<i> FOURTEEN
GENERATIONS</i>
.
– Matt. 1:17<br>
<br>
In
regard to the supposed error in Matthew One, regarding the 14 plus 14
plus 14 generations and the so-called missing names, the first mistake is
to assume that a “genealogy” and a “generation” are exactly synonymous
here and then to argue in a circle to prove it to be in error. The second
mistake is to demand that every generation must have a recorded
O.T. name (or vice versa). Another mistake is to demand that the
generations be immediately successive (without gaps), esteeming Thayer’s
interpretation of “successive generations” per the Greek to be above
Matthew’s inspired record, contrary to the normal and usual word
usage. In other words, the Greek is correct about the meaning of
“generation” but not about the recorded names. Another mistake is to
overlook the other non listed names from 2 Kings.<br>
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Many
prophetic students will mistakenly quibble about the time involved in a
generation. Using Usher's notes generously and dividing by 14, the
“Abraham to David” generation might calculate anywhere from 57 years to
78 years per generation; David to the captivity might calculate to
36 years or less per generation; the captivity to Christ, using Daniel's
69 weeks of years and seventy years for the captivity, might calculate to
37 years in solar years per generation. There are no valid reasons for
assigning a generation to a 40-year period nor to any other specific
amount. The older commentators, for whatever it is worth, viewed the
generation as a race or group of people living in a general time
period, rather than an exact or specific quantity of years per
generation.<br>
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Notice
that there is one person’s name per each of the 14 generations in the
first group of ordinary generations, counting David. Notice also that
there is one person’s name per each of the 13 royal generations in the
second royal group (14 counting David again). The third group of ordinary
people contains 14 persons’ names also, a total of 41 without David
counted twice and not 42 as one would expect, if the error finders’
theory were correct. Still, David is named twice, making it 42, but that
is little help to error finders. Curiously, the consonants of David in
the Greek, DVD, add up to 14 in Greek numerology. (See Addendum for name
lists)<br>
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Although Matthew’s generations <i>DO</i> show descent, they do not
necessarily show immediate or successive descent in that Jesus Christ in
his generation was said to be the son of David as well as the son of
Abraham, hardly an immediate or successive descent (Matt. 1:1). That
which follows are a number of “begats,” for instance, Abraham begat
or generated Isaac, and etc., which all loosely allows sons, adoptions,
grandsons, and even husbands of the daughters in the bloodline to be sons
and to be begotten or generated (as also in Luke’s account) all of which
are quite consistent with ancient Hebrew thought and usage.<br>
<br>
Now,
the mechanics of Kings and Chronicles as to dating and other things is
very complicated to the Gentile mind and seem to be more of a
problem to them than to the Jew, who is the primary concern here. Such
matters are compounded by name changes, adoptions, usurpations, murdered
kings, deposed kings, co-regencies, and etc. Notice that the Jehoachin of
Chronicles is the Jeconiah of Matthew, and Pedaiah of Chronicles is the
Shealtiel of Matthew. If there would have been a problem with Matthew’s
generations, we would have heard something about it in the first century
from those eager to dispute Jesus Christ’s royal, genealogical
credentials. <br>
<br>
Now,
this is already enough to prove that the absence of Ahaziah, Azariah, and
Joash in Matthew, while included in Second Chronicles 3, is not an error
nor a problem. It is an intentional exclusion for whatever reason, either
by Matthew or the Holy Spirit narrative. Still, some may not have noticed
the absence of the only woman on Judah’s throne in between Ahaziah and
Joash, the woman called Athaliah (2 Kings 11:1-20), who slew all but one
of the royal line (Joash) and usurped the throne. Joash was installed as
king at seven years old and Athalia was killed. This proves that these
generations are not necessarily immediately successive nor
continuous. <br>
<br>
Neither Matthew nor Second Chronicles 3 mentions king Johahaz, who
reigned in his father Josiah’s stead (2 Kings 23:30). This Johahaz was
deposed by banishment and succeded by Josiah’s other son, Eliakim, his
brother, whose name was changed to Jehaiokim (2 Kings 23:30 - 34), who is
mentioned in Second Chronicles but not mentioned in Matthew.
Johaichin, his son (2 kings 24:6), succeeded him but is called Jeconiah
in both Second Chronicles and Matthew. This brings the total to 17
in the second Chronicles as opposed to the 14 in the second grouping of
Matthew <i>[add two more for the unlisted Athalia and Jehoahaz, making
19].</i> So, even Second Chronicles does not have successive, gap
less, or continuous generations. It would be interesting to see
someone find all of Matthew’s third grouping in Chronicles or elsewhere
letting us know where Matthew obtained these names, if not by
inspiration.<br>
<br>
Matthew’s recorded names were intended for one reason and one reason
alone–to demonstrates the messianic credentials of Jesus Christnot
duplicate something in the Book of Chronicles. He chose to do so in a
symmetrical fashion with inspired knowledge as to the dividing line for
each of the 3 groups of 14 generations. What is interesting is that David
is named twice. The numerical value of the Hebrew consonants for “David”
are DVD or 14. Matthew is the Gospel of the King, the legal royal line
through Jesus’ stepfather Joseph, whereas Luke is the legal
<i>GENETIC</i> line back to Adam (legally through son in law Joseph and
biologically through Mary* -- Luke 3). Jesus’ messianic credentials to
the throne are legally and biologically secured by both genealogies.
(*Note: There was no Greek word for son-in law)<br>
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The
error finder’s problem is not with any genealogical errors but with
<i>QUESTIONS</i> about them rather than exercising<i> GODLY EDIFYING IN
FAITH</i>.</b> <b>This is not the last word on this, as I am sure that
some astute Bible student can find out other reasons for at least some of
the exclusions. Believe the Book.</b> <b>It is the only thing that can
throughly furnish the man of God in all doctrine, reproof, and
instruction in righteousness.<br>
--by Herb Evans<br>
<br>
(See Scripture Addendum below) Addendum: A Comparison of O.T. and N.T.
Lists<br>
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<div align="center"><b><u>Abraham to David per Matthew<br>
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(1)
Abraham begat (2) Isaac; and Isaac begat (3) Jacob; and Jacob
begat (4) Judas and his brethren; And Judas begat (5) Phares
and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat (6) Esrom; and Esrom begat (7)
Aram; And Aram begat (8) Aminadab; and Aminadab begat (9) Naasson;
and Naasson begat (10) Salmon; And Salmon begat (11) Booz of
Rachab; and Booz begat (12) Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat (13)
Jesse; And Jesse begat (14)<i> David* </i>the king; . . . --
Matt. 1:2-6<br>
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<div align="center"><u>David to Babylonian Captivity per Matthew<br>
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. . . and (1)
<i>DAVID*</i> the king begat (2) Solomon of her that had been the
wife of Urias; And Solomon begat (3) Roboam; and Roboam
begat (4) Abia; and Abia begat (5) Asa; And Asa begat (6) Josaphat;
and Josaphat begat (7) Joram; and Joram begat<i> [AHAZIAH, JOASH,
AMAZIAH– not listed but found in 1 Chron. 3] </i>(8) Ozias<i> [UZZIAH,
also called AZARIAH]</i>; And Ozias begat (9) Joatham; and Joatham
begat (10) Achaz; and Achaz begat (11) Ezekias; And Ezekias begat
(12) Manasses; and Manasses begat (13) Amon; and Amon begat (14) Josias;
– Matt. 1:6-10<br>
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<div align="center"><u>Captivity to Christ per Matthew<br>
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. . . and Josias
begat<i> [JEHOIAKIM - not listed] </i>(1) Jechonias<i>
[JEHOIACHIN]</i> and his brethren, about the time they were carried away
to Babylon: And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias
<i>[JEHOIACHIN]</i> begat (2) Salathiel; and Salathiel <i>[called
PEDAIAH]</i> begat (3) Zorobabel; And Zorobabel begat (4) Abiud; and
Abiud begat (5) Eliakim; and Eliakim begat (6) Azor; And Azor begat (7)
Sadoc; and Sadoc begat (8) Achim; and Achim begat (9) Eliud; And Eliud
begat (10) Eleazar; and Eleazar begat (11) Matthan; and
Matthan begat (12) Jacob; And Jacob begat (13) Joseph the husband
of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called (14) Christ. – Matt.
1:11-16<br>
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So all
the generations from Abraham to <i>DAVID*</i> are fourteen generations;
and from <i>DAVID* </i>until the carrying away into Babylon are
fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ
are fourteen generations. -- Matt. 1:7-17<br>
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<div align="center"><u>David to Captivity per Chronicles<br>
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These
were all the sons of (1) David . . . And (2) Solomon's son
was (3) Rehoboam, (4) Abia his son, (5) Asa his son, (
6) Jehoshaphat his son, (7) Joram his son, (8) Ahaziah his son, <i>(9)
[Athalia on the throne not listed 2 Kings 11:1-20]</i> (10) Joash
his son, (11) Amaziah his son, (12) Azariah his son, (13) Jotham his son,
(14) Ahaz his son, (15) Hezekiah his son, (16) Manasseh his son, (17)
Amon his son, (18) Josiah his son <i>(19)</i> <i>[Jehoahaz deposed
not listed; Eliakim, his brother, made king in his place and had his name
changed to Jehoiakim 2 Kings 23:30-34].<br>
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<div align="center"><u>Captivity and After per Chronicles<br>
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And
the sons of Josiah were, the firstborn Johanan, the second (1) Jehoiakim,
the third Zedekiah, the fourth Shallum. And the sons of <i>JEHOIAKIM</i>
<i>[formerly Eliakim]</i> (2) Jeconiah <i>[JEHOIACHIN] </i>his son, (3)
Zedekiah his son. And the sons of Jeconiah; Assir, Salathiel <i>[called
PEDAIAH] </i>his son, Malchiram also, and (4) Pedaiah, and Shenazar,
Jecamiah, Hoshama, and Nedabiah. And the sons of<i> PEDAIAH</i> were,
(<i>5) ZERUBBABLE</i>, and Shimei: and the sons of Zerubbabel; Meshullam,
and Hananiah, and Shelomith their sister: And Hashubah, and Ohel, and
Berechiah, and Hasadiah, Jushabhesed, five. And the sons of Hananiah;
Pelatiah, and Jesaiah: the sons of Rephaiah, the sons of Arnan, the sons
of Obadiah, the sons of Shechaniah. And the sons of Shechaniah; Shemaiah:
and the sons of Shemaiah; Hattush, and Igeal, and Bariah, and Neariah,
and Shaphat, six. And the sons of Neariah; Elioenai, and Hezekiah, and
Azrikam, three. And the sons of Elioenai were, Hodaiah, and Eliashib, and
Pelaiah, and Akkub, and Johanan, and Dalaiah, and Anani,
seven. -- 1 Chr. 3:1 and
10-24 <br>
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--by Herb Evans<br>
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