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Re: C-130 Vets To change the Suject  Jeff Rogers
 Sep 25, 2001 23:55 PDT 
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Took a peek at it and even after almost 30 years it is still a sorry sight.Had several good pictures myself but were destroyed along with my house during Hurricane Opal. Took pictures while on TDY with some AWADS Herks. This one was not the only one that ended up in this sorry condition in 1972. The NVA ventilated Herks on a daily basis at this time. 64-0532 ended up with a hole in the wing almost big enough to crawl through. Must have been living right back then it didnt catch on fire.Leaked fuel all the way to Ton Son Nhut and had it flying again in 7 days.
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From: Robert A.Daley
To: Herky-@topica.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: (C-130 Vets) C-130 Vets To change the Suject


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Jeff,
There is a picture of 62-1854 on the ramp at Kontum in the articles section of the Herk page.
Article is aircraft losses in SEA
Bob
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    Quan Loi Queen was 62-1854 the last time I saw it, was kind of sorry looking. May 1972 burned on ramp at Kontum RVSN. They must of sent it through IRAN because when I left CCK in August of 71 a museum would have been the best place for it. It had many problems that just never seemed to get fixed. It had a trim problem because the tail was not on correctly plus all four engines would quit in unison every once and awhile for a few seconds. I always hoped they would not do their act on T/O never did though.Also could not pressurize the aircraft fully. At the time it was also restricted from flying any pax. It was a sad looking sight the last time I saw it.   ----- Original Message -----
      From: Sam McGowan
      To: Herky-@topica.com
      Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 8:31 AM
      Subject: Re: C-130 Vets To change the Suject
        
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      In a message dated 9/15/2001 7:46:34 AM Central Daylight Time, bobd-@airmail.net writes:
        
        
        For those interested, I just found out the tail number and location of
        the aircraft that Buddha Caldwell and Crew were flying at An Loc on 15
        April 1972. This was the aircraft on which the FE Jon Sanders was shot
        and killed and Charlie Shaub became the only AF enlisted man to win the
        AF Cross.
        It was 62-1787. It is currently being flown by the AR ANG at the School
        House at Little Rock.
        The AF Museum has earmarked the aircraft for preservation.
        Bob
      Bob,

      I am glad to see us get back on Herkybirds - though the events of this past Tuesday are on everyone's minds. There is one thing in your post that needs to be corrected. Charlie Shaub was the only enlisted AIRLIFTER to receive the Air Force Cross, not the only enlisted man. There were at least a dozen enlisted men who received the award and probably twice that many. At least one went to an Air Force security policeman who won it during one of the attacks during Tet '68. Several PJs received the award, with the first going to William H. Pitzenbarger, who was recently awarded the Medal of Honor. Duane Hackney was another PJ who got the AFC. I believe some other awards went to enlisted helicopter crewmen in rescue and special operations helicopter squadrons.

      That airplane needs to go to a museum now - before something happens to it. I have been told that "The Quan Loi Queen", the airplane that loadmaster Norman Thomas died in, was earmarked to go to the Air Force Museum at the end of it's career. But it didn't survive the war. It ended up in E Flight at CCK and was destroyed on the ground during the 1972 battles.

      Sam

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Took a peek at it and even after almost 30 years it
is still a sorry sight.</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>Had several good
pictures myself but were destroyed along with my house during Hurricane Opal.
Took pictures while on TDY with some AWADS Herks. This one was not the only one
that ended up in this sorry condition in 1972. The NVA ventilated Herks on a
daily basis at this time. 64-0532 ended up with a hole in the wing almost big
enough to crawl through. Must have been living right back then it didnt catch on
fire.Leaked fuel all the way to Ton Son Nhut and had it flying again in 7
days.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=b-@airmail.net href="mailto:bobd-@airmail.net">Robert
A.Daley</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=He-@topica.com
href="mailto:Herky-@topica.com">Herky-@topica.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:31
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: (C-130 Vets) C-130 Vets To
change the Suject</DIV>
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============================================================</PRE>Jeff,
<BR>There is a picture of 62-1854 on the ramp at Kontum in the articles
section of the Herk page. <BR>Article is aircraft losses in SEA <BR>Bob
<P>Jeff Rogers wrote:
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    face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Quan Loi Queen was 62-1854 the last time I saw it,
    was kind of sorry looking. May 1972 burned on ramp at Kontum RVSN. They must
    of sent it through IRAN because when I left CCK in August of 71 a museum
    would have been the best place for it. It had many problems that just never
    seemed to get fixed. It had a trim problem because the tail was not on
    correctly plus all four engines would quit in unison every once and awhile
    for a few seconds. I always hoped they would not do their act on T/O never
    did though.</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Also could not
    pressurize the aircraft fully. At the time it was also restricted from
    flying any pax. It was a sad looking sight the last time I saw
    it.</FONT></FONT>   ----- Original Message -----
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      style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
      <A title=sem-@aol.com href="mailto:semcgo-@aol.com">Sam
      McGowan</A></DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=He-@topica.com
      href="mailto:Herky-@topica.com">Herky-@topica.com</A></DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 15, 2001
      8:31 AM</DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: C-130 Vets To change the
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      face="Bradley Hand ITC"><FONT size=+0>In a message dated 9/15/2001 7:46:34
      AM Central Daylight Time, bobd-@airmail.net writes:</FONT></FONT>
      <BR>  <BR> 
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      style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"
      TYPE="CITE"><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=-1>For those
        interested, I just found out the tail number and location
        of</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000><FONT
        size=-1>the aircraft that Buddha Caldwell and Crew were flying at An Loc
        on 15</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT
        color=#000000><FONT size=-1>April 1972. This was the aircraft on which
        the FE Jon Sanders was shot</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT
        face=Arial><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=-1>and killed and Charlie
        Shaub became the only AF enlisted man to win the</FONT></FONT></FONT>
        <BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=-1>AF
        Cross.</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT
        color=#000000><FONT size=-1>It was 62-1787. It is currently being flown
        by the AR ANG at the School</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT
        face=Arial><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=-1>House at Little
        Rock.</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT
        color=#000000><FONT size=-1>The AF Museum has earmarked the aircraft for
        preservation.</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT
        color=#000000><FONT size=-1>Bob</FONT></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
      <P><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"><FONT color=#000000><FONT
      size=+0>Bob,</FONT></FONT></FONT>
      <P><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=+0>I am
      glad to see us get back on Herkybirds - though the events of this past
      Tuesday are on everyone's minds. There is one thing in your post that
      needs to be corrected. Charlie Shaub was the only enlisted AIRLIFTER to
      receive the Air Force Cross, not the only enlisted man. There were at
      least a dozen enlisted men who received the award and probably twice that
      many. At least one went to an Air Force security policeman who won it
      during one of the attacks during Tet '68. Several PJs received the award,
      with the first going to William H. Pitzenbarger, who was recently awarded
      the Medal of Honor. Duane Hackney was another PJ who got the AFC. I
      believe some other awards went to enlisted helicopter crewmen in rescue
      and special operations helicopter squadrons.</FONT></FONT></FONT>
      <P><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=+0>That
      airplane needs to go to a museum now - before something happens to it. I
      have been told that "The Quan Loi Queen", the airplane that loadmaster
      Norman Thomas died in, was earmarked to go to the Air Force Museum at the
      end of it's career. But it didn't survive the war. It ended up in E Flight
      at CCK and was destroyed on the ground during the 1972
      battles.</FONT></FONT></FONT>
      <P><FONT face="Bookman Old Style"><FONT color=#000000><FONT
      size=+0>Sam</FONT></FONT></FONT> <PRE><FONT face=arial,helvetica>============================================================
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