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Re: Smog
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Peter Lamberty
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Mar 19, 2009 13:46 PST
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yep, west coast...home of Microsoft, Boeing, Intel, Apple...good luck with your smog machine...
--- On Thu, 3/19/09, adrianbo-@sbcglobal.net <adrianbo-@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
From: adrianbo-@sbcglobal.net <adrianbo-@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: LB Smog
To: LBli-@topica.com
Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 9:14 AM
West Coast!
It looks like we're all thinking batman nano shell here, with the
carbon fiber thing. WHy not a a lighter than air wing that is so
aerodynamic it wants to fly by sheer potential energy? I've been doing
some sketches. Is it possible to post them here? or should I develop a
patent pending domain base?
I was wondering how ironic it would be if we could have a ballonet
that displaced atmosphere using "smog." The waste properties of
combustion are lighter than air, CO, carbon monoxide, not Colorado
(though you might feel a rocky mnt. high from the CO).
If we used a small yet powerful engine like in a motorcycle engine you
could have gargantuan amounts of power and plenty of lighter than air
gases. Trap them in a vacuum where you can manipulate Pressure and
Volume and Temp. and you can regulate the Constant. PV/T=C. What's the
displacement quotient of CO? Can we harness the power of Smog as the
Hobbits did long ago?
Engine-earing....vroom. It's all about the flying car these days, all
over again. Someone call Richard Branson.
Peter Lamberty wrote:
| | good to see activity here, again. hi Reed! haven't seen you since
about three hours before White Dwarf sprung her fatal leak. hope you
are well.
i've continued having my "what if..." conversations with my circle of
science-geek buddies here in portland. one thing that has come up, that
may be worthy of further discussion - i'd like to throw it out there,
anyway: vacuum blimp.
here's what i've found: since He has roughly 1/8 the density of air,
theoretically, if you were to reduce the atmospheric pressure inside an
envelope from 760 torr to <100 torr, (75 torr, ideally), you would have
the same bouyancy as a He envelope. according to the on-line info,
(google, etc), this can be achieved with a vacuum cleaner hose, (given
that you've got ball-check valves in place, etc). all catastrophic
failure aside, (), it seems that an envelope model could be constructed
with carbon fiber sheet, tubing and epoxy. nice idea for an unmanned
blimp, anyway...
my two cents
Pete
--- On Wed, 3/18/09, adrianbo-@sbcglobal.net
<adrianbo-@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
From: adrianbo-@sbcglobal.net <adrianbo-@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: LB topicas-review of 2yrs
To: LBli-@topica.com
Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 11:15 PM
Well,
The discussion's run off into a little blimp ditch it seems; kudos to
our worthy science experts for keeping us on point concerning learning.
We are all still learning after all.
I haven't heard from you guys in a long while (2yrs?) so it comes as
a suprise to hear Reed? discussing many ideas I have also had this past
year concerning innovation and that great old American spirit of
invention. Thanks for throwing your seeds of thought into the fray. Yes
hydrogen seems much more readily available to produce in the "backyard"
(e.i. Joe Cell, Hydroxyl, are you referring to elecrtolysis?) and the
fabrication of a "lighter than air" hull using pvc and plastics. I had
mentioned to Charles Luffman long ago Trivex which maintains its tensile
strength at micro-levels, basicly bullet proof contact lenses,
literally.
And the saucer thing, well I was thinking more of a lighter than air
parafoil which would combine aerostatic and aeronautical principles in
creating lift and stability. Think of a boat upside down but with wings.
Is that what d.g. is pursuing perhaps? the sub theory? Isn't
displacement in the water similiar at least to air in that birds and
fish have found ways to do it in both? Aerodynamics or hydrodynamics
will follow similiar natural laws. It is good to know He and H are
kissing cousins when it comes to aerostatic lift. Their lift quotients
are negligably equal.
Would it not behoove us to work as a team for the benefit of all
humankind? BTW there are grants offerred by the U.S. government (40
million) if you can come up with a flying submergible. There ya go!
mini-blimp-subs....I'll look forward to hearing more. Thanks for keeping
me in the LB list serve.
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