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RE: [NWWC] One of these days...
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MINDY ZIFFREN-Hall
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Sep 09, 2004 21:26 PDT
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Hmmm...that's a good point. Well, I support whatever you all want to do. If
it's easy to keep it that way then let's do that.
Mindy
| | From: Eric Lynch <ely-@bigfoot.com>
Reply-To: NW-@topica.com
To: NW-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [NWWC] One of these days...
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 23:17:56 -0400
At one of the early meetings last fall Heather (I think) proposed that we
should maybe encourage all cycling disciplines, not just road, and apply 15
points for any cycling event.
Doing only road races would certainly simplify the series - but is NWWC
only
promoting road racing (just asking, I don't have an opinin or history in
this issue).
Now I really am going to sleep.
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: MINDY ZIFFREN-Hall [mailto:mzif-@msn.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 10:50 PM
To: NW-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [NWWC] One of these days...
Good points, thanks Eric! Now get some sleep and I"ll see ya soon!
Did we score other non-road events in this year's 2004 Series into our road
racing Series?
I don't think we should include points for any events outside of a Road
race. Perhaps I missed this point if it was included in this year's Series.
I feel strongly though that this is a Road series.
Thanks,
Mindy
| | From: Eric Lynch <ely-@bigfoot.com>
Reply-To: NW-@topica.com
To: NW-@topica.com
Subject: [NWWC] One of these days...
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:09:22 -0400
I will learn to send e-mail properly.
Last night I wrote a very lengthy reply to Kirstin's excellent note about
her efforts tracking the Cat 4 series and a few concerns that she had.
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This
| | will be a very abridged version of what I spent much time writing, and to
my
great surprise appears to have never been sent. (Read: operator error)
First: Kirstin, many thanks for actig as pointskeeper for the Cat 4
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series
| | for two years. You've done a stellar job in taking over from Sarah and
have
made the series possible for these beginner women. Good luck in your
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future
| | project management efforts!
Second: Here are the three items I think we should change in the series
"rules". I wrote long, long paragraphs on the "why" of my logic in the
"lost" e-mail. These are the short, but hopefully as effective, versions:
1. Cycling Events Outside the Series: Any cycling event outside of the
series that a rider participates in will count as 15 points for that
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rider.
| | These non-series events must be events that any Cat 4 rider could
participte
in as a beginner. Ie: Cat 4 track racing is fine, but Cat 3 is not. The
same
would be tru of mountain bike racing: Beginner races count; higer level
races do not. By this guideline, masters events would not qualify as
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other
| | racers in the senior ranks would not always qualify.
2. Stage races: I agree with Kirstin that we should not "triple score"
stage races. However not everyone does all three stages, so GC placing is
also somewhat biased. I propose that we offer 1/3 of the usuals points
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for
| | each stage in the race (ie: 1st place in any stage would be worth 33.3
poits
vs 100 points). A bit of a pain to score, but more fair to more riders in
more situations.
3. Last minute changes: As long as we send out regular updates to the
series on nwcycling in '05, I think it would be easy to put a reasonable
deadline by which time we will no longer accept "corrections". Since we
publish what we have to the listserv, it should be the riders'
responsibilities to verify their data is correct and let us know in a
reasonable time. Both Kirstin and I had people e-mail at the last
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minute,
| | and some even after the awards ceremony. So if we set a deadline and
publish
it, the riders should be able to work within the time frame we give them.
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I
| | hope that makes sense, as I am falling asleep as I write this.
I also hope my spelling errors are minimal tonight :-), but that's too
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much
| | to hope for. We're over-nighting in Montreal before heading to SF
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tomorrow
| | morning at 6 am (ouch), so I have an excuse this time.
See you next week,
Eric
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