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Re: Smith and Schwartz  Rob LeGrand
 Sep 30, 2001 18:45 PDT 
Pharamond Curtis wrote:
 How is the Schwartz set different from the Smith set?

Usually, it's not. But if there are pairwise ties, they might be
different. See Markus Schulze's post

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/6493

for an algorithm to compute the Schwartz set. The same algorithm can
be used to calculate the Smith set by changing the line

if (d[i,j] > d[j,i]) then

to

if (d[i,j] >= d[j,i]) then

 Are members of the Smith set always members of the Schwartz set?

No, but the converse is true: The Schwartz set is always a subset of
the Smith set. So if a method passes the Schwartz criterion, it also
passes the Smith criterion (and thus the Condorcet criterion).

 Does anyone have any examples in which the Schwartz set is not
identical to the Smith set?

Sure. Here's one I generated randomly:

1:A>B>D>C
2:B>A>C>D
3:C>A>D>B
2:D>B>A>C

The Smith set is {A, B, C, D}, but the Schwartz set is just {A}. Note
that A has no pairwise losses. Ranked Pairs might choose B depending on
the tiebreaker, but Schulze, Minmax, Copeland, Dodgson and Borda always
pick A. IRV picks B.

 Does anyone here see Ranked Pairs' failure to meet the Schwartz
criterion to be a serious flaw?

Nah, not really. I would like a method to pass the Smith criterion,
but I think most agree that Schwartz is too strict. Besides, the two
sets will always be the same in large enough elections.

--
Rob LeGrand
honk-@aggies.org
http://www.aggies.org/honky98/
	
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