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RE: Jeff's White Salmon SS
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Ron Corson
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Jun 08, 2004 20:13 PDT
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A couple of responses to Jeff's post.
| | It would appear that those people had no clue about the sactuary's
meaning and all they knew was that something died. So to get that all
tied together and finished up He died to get them to put 2 and 2
together. They were supposed to (as far as I can tell) get the message
from the sanctuary services that sin leads to bad consequences and be
reminded of that. But they got off sidelined on a legal system. Seems
like everybody since Adam got on that track too and God just worked
along with it. They started killing things out of JOY!
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This is really not true. To the Jews the sanctuary service pointed out
the ability to commune with God, to share a meal with God, to offer God
their hospitality. The animals were a gift to God, an acknowledgement
that what they owned was from God and that man knew that he was not up
to the standards of God and thus needing forgiveness. What Jeff is
reacting to is the Christian distortion of the services in which they
seem to think that the whole thing was to point to Jesus. But logically
they had no way of Knowing that it was never revealed to them that way
at anytime. It can foreshadow the things of Christ, but it is only
because of the record we have in the New Testament that we can see the
resemblances with the sanctuary services.
We must also remember that Cain and Abel offered the first sacrifices,
but we have no evidence that what they were doing was by way of God's
instructions. But we do see in primative man a universal religion
practices relating to animal sacrifices. So it is more likely that God
used the services that people invented themselves in the process of
teaching people about God.
| | So when He said "My God, my God
why has thou forsaken me?" it must have some descriptive purpose.
Namely,(as far as I can tell) that separation from God lead to whatever
death occurred and was the real cause of the death.
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As far as you can tell? That is an awful lot to bring out of the simple
recitation of the first verse of Psalm 22. In fact to believe that Jesus
died from seperation from God is to deny what the Bible says when it
says that men killed Jesus. Jesus who is God in human form died in human
form, that does not in anyway mean that God in divinity died. It was the
human body which men killed, it was a human body that was resurrected as
the first fruits of those who have died. God as the Bible tells us is
immortal God who is One does not need or more properly does not seperate
one part of himself to show that death would result. For in fact we have
seen death since the beginning of Man's existence. But we had not seen
the plain fact of the character of God until Jesus, nor did we see the
real power of God brought forward by the resurrection and ascention of
Jesus. We had the stories of Enough and Elijah, but in Jesus we saw
someone willingly lay down his life and then take it up again.
| | That's what their whole setup was about. And then when Jesus said he
didn't come to destroy their legal system but to fulfill it it made good
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system they were given - not that they understood it.
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The Old Testament Law is not really a legal system. It was a term for
the Torah which is the first five books of the Bible. Thus by fulfilling
the law he acomplished what the law however good it was could not do. He
lead us to Himself, to God who was reconciling Himself to those of us
hostile to Him. Not at all in some type of legal system fulfillment but
a fulfillment of the intent of all the law, the prophecies and the
instructions given to guide us in ways to deal with man and God.
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