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Righteousness by Faith
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Ron Corson
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Mar 17, 2005 22:04 PST
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The following is from
http://www.pineknoll.org/adventist/realmedia/ssl/2005/q1/pkpssl20050319.mp3
from the lesson 12 The Cross and Sanctification. I point this out
because it is the typical disconnect between people with completely
different atonement views. In this case the lady does not seem to
understand at all what Jonathan is trying to say. And it is very
demonstrative of just how the traditional view sees justice.
In Jonathan Gallagher’s class a lady after reading from Romans 4:4-5
says:
Lady:
So with God the package is so wonderful that not only does he say ok
your work which is going to be as good as filthy rags I’m going to
impute my forgiveness to you so we are at ground zero now. But not only
that he imputes his righteousness his right doing his right living and
so I am not only at zero my debt is not only forgiven I am given a
credit above that.
Jonathan:
Thank you for that but if God gives us a credit we don’t deserve is God
being fair?
Lady:
That the part, salvation is not fair.
Jonathan:
So if salvation isn’t fair and God isn’t being fair, then hasn’t he lost
the argument of the Great Controversy?
Lady:
It is not fair as far as us because we do not get what we deserve,
because he took what we deserve in order to give us what we did not
deserve but he did.
Jonathan:
But if he takes what we deserve, then that not fair is it? I’m just
raising the point in terms of orderly and right governed universe to do
something that is manifestly unfair. The devil is going to call foul at
that point straight away. And so the issues in the Great Controversy
will be lost because God has acted inappropriately.
Lady:
At the cross both justice and mercy kissed each other, because God was
completely just and yet completely merciful.
Jonathan:
Yea but we also have to remember when we say that God was completely
just what do we mean?
Lady:
He did exact from his son his life in payment for the transgression of
his law.
Jonathan:
Because if we identify Just as being a punitive action then that doesn’t
seem very just at all because justice is the same as righteousness isn’t
it.
Lady:
Righteousness is right doing, which the life of Jesus was
Jonathan:
Or right being even.
Lady:
Right which was Jesus
Jonathan:
Ok
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