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Dec 20, 2003 11:02 PST
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Subject: etni Digest V1 #137
etni Digest Fri, 19 Dec 2003 Volume: 01 Issue: 137
In This Issue:
[etni] Re: Limor's news
[etni] Bagrut in 11th grade
[etni] Re: Limor's news
[etni] : LD students in winter bagrut
[etni] Fw: learning disabilityassessments
[etni] Re: Project Problems
[etni] Fw: re: learning disabilityassessments
[etni] Fw: re: learning disabilityassessments
[etni] Re: : LD students in winter bagrut
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:09:43 +0200
From: "D.Rosenfeld" <den-@netvision.net.il>
Subject: [etni] Re: Limor's news
I feel I must join in with these voices, as they are both right and
legitimate.
Maybe it is about time for our learned Minister to try her hand at the real
thing, in the field; and only afterwards initiate the reforms and
revolutions.
At 07:06 19/12/2003 +0200, you wrote:
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If classes are too large to teach effectively now, (and studies have proved
that learning improved when class sizes go down) I would love to understand
how our beloved and learned minister of education thinks that firing
thousands more teachers is going to solve the problem.
~Adele
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From: "Vera and Yacov Lachmanovich" <lachma-@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:13 PM
Subject: [etni] Limor's news
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Dear Fellowship of Teachers, may I ask you only one question? How many
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of
| | | | you feel that for more money they are prepared to teach more classes?
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Maybe
| | the fact that I think that if I get one more class I'll go nuts is my
personal problem. And maybe I should make sure to be among the 15000
teachers who'll get fired and not on the other list... In the meantime
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have
| | awonderful Hanukka vacation, and who knows maybe another miracle will
happen... Yours Vera
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:00:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Shiri Zeevi-Hirsch <shir-@yahoo.com>
Subject: [etni] Bagrut in 11th grade
Hello List,
I have 2 questions:
1. Can an 11th grade student take the 3 point exam this year, and improve
his grade next year in case he doesn't do well, by retaking the exam?
2. Can that student take the 3 point exam this year and add more modules
next year in order to make it a 4 point exam?
I'd appreciate receiving answers to both of these questions, since one of my
private students was advised in school to take the 3 point exam in 11th
grade, and I feel that it won't be right for him.
Thanks!
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From: "Bari Nirenberg" <nire-@actcom.co.il>
Subject: [etni] Re: Limor's news
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:22:40 +0200
Oh, you don't get it. They fire half the teachers and then make you teach
twice as many classes as you already do. That will certainly be effective,
right?
Bari (who is currently teaching six classes and doesn't want any more,
thanks!)
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From: etni-b-@freelists.org [mailto:etni-b-@freelists.org]On
Behalf Of Adele Raemer
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 07:06
To: et-@freelists.org
Subject: [etni] Re: Limor's news
**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org ****
If classes are too large to teach effectively now, (and studies
have proved
that learning improved when class sizes go down) I would love to
understand
how our beloved and learned minister of education thinks that firing
thousands more teachers is going to solve the problem.
~Adele
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Subject: [etni] : LD students in winter bagrut
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:14:33 +0200
From: "looly shytrit" <lool-@hotmail.co.il>
I need to know where I can find the new bulletin that talks about the winter
bagrut. I need to know which parts are taken off for LD students-LD
guidelines and mutam tests for winter 2004.
Thank you,
Hila Shitrit -Hay
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From: "Ask Etni" <as-@etni.org>
Subject: [etni] Fw: learning disabilityassessments
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:49:36 +0200
----- Original Message -----
From: Toba Frankel tob-@macam.ac.il
To: Ask Etni ; jan-@yahoogroups.com.
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:26 AM
Subject: learning disabilityassessments
I am conducting research on learning disabilities and need several tests.
Perhaps you have what I am looking for. I would like to borrow, rent or buy
the following:
TOMAL, WRAML. Dyslexia Screening Test, Visual/Auditory Order Threshold,
TOVA, Connors, Stroop or their equivalents.
I hope to hear from you soon.
Shabbat Shalom, Chanukah Sameach,
Toba Frankel
058-405331
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:57:23 +0200
From: sarag <sar-@netvision.net.il>
Subject: [etni] Re: Project Problems
I just looked in the NBA handbook- it does say 8 lessons as a minimum. I
seem to remember that in one of the earlier "hozrim" it said something about
1 - 1.5 month. (But I may be mistaken, of course!). In any case, if the
project grade is equivalent to a test grade, and a test is on about 1.5
month's work, then I think the project should take about the same time.
Of course, what I understand from the irgun's latest letter (on their web
site) is that we can now do whatever we want with the projects. (I don't
think this is so good.)
I remember 4 or 5 years ago, when projects were just starting to be done in
English classes (at least as far as I knew - I wasn't an English teacher
then) my son - in grade 7 or 8 - got a wonderful project to do. But they did
it all at home, with no guidelines or feedback from the teacher until they
handed in the final project. Even then' I felt that they were missing out
on learning HOW to do a project.
The body language of "I'll call you" is really nice! I'll try to remember to
check it in my clases after the vacation!
happy hanuka!
sara g
sara g in israel
sar-@netvision.net.il
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bari Nirenberg" <nire-@actcom.co.il>
To: "sarag" <sar-@netvision.net.il>; <et-@freelists.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:27 PM
Subject: RE: [etni] Re: Project Problems
| | 1.5 to 2 months of working every day or only once a week? My kids did
project work every day for two weeks, which is what is suggested both in
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the
| | project guidelines and in the NBA handbook (8 lessons, actually -- mine
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did
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| | Oh, and most important of all, I now know that you do not need to speak
Hebrew (or any other language) to talk to people in Israel. Among other
things, I now know how to say "I'll call you later" without saying a word.
I actually asked a bunch of students in different classes what I was
"saying" and every single one understood immediately. It goes like this:
roll your hands around each other, point to yourself, hold your hand up
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next
| | to your face with your pinky pointing at your mouth and your thumb
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pointing
| | at your ear and then point to the person you're "talking" to. And if
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you're
| | ever in China, don't say "come here" by holding out your index finger and
moving it back and forth. The Chinese only call animals that way.
Bari
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From: "Ask Etni" <as-@etni.org>
Subject: [etni] Fw: re: learning disabilityassessments
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:13:03 +0200
----- Original Message -----
From: "Reuben Moses" <mreu-@netvision.net.il>
To: <as-@etni.org>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [etni] Fw: learning disabilityassessments
Tova, these tests are usually sold to approved specialists only.
Best wishes
Reuben
Tova wrote:
| | I am conducting research on learning disabilities and need several tests.
Perhaps you have what I am looking for. I would like to borrow, rent or
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buy
| | the following:
TOMAL, WRAML. Dyslexia Screening Test, Visual/Auditory Order Threshold,
TOVA, Connors, Stroop or their equivalents.
I hope to hear from you soon.
Shabbat Shalom, Chanukah Sameach,
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From: "Ask Etni" <as-@etni.org>
Subject: [etni] Fw: re: learning disabilityassessments
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 07:32:48 +0200
----- Original Message -----
From: "sarag" <sar-@netvision.net.il>
To: <as-@etni.org>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: [etni] Fw: re: learning disabilityassessments
Also - the TOVA is a computer program / test. It is often given twice -
without and with Ritalin. So needs an M. D. involved inthe testing.
sara g
sara g in israel
sar-@netvision.net.il
Reuben wrote:
| | Tova, these tests are usually sold to approved specialists only.
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| | Tova wrote:
I am conducting research on learning disabilities and need several
tests.
Perhaps you have what I am looking for. I would like to borrow, rent or
buy the following:
TOMAL, WRAML. Dyslexia Screening Test, Visual/Auditory Order Threshold,
TOVA, Connors, Stroop or their equivalents.
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:22:20 +0200
From: sarag <sar-@netvision.net.il>
Subject: [etni] Re: : LD students in winter bagrut
It hasen't been sent out yet, as far as i know. (I just looked for it on
ETNI, couldn't find it.)
sara g
sara g in israel
sar-@netvision.net.il
----- Original Message -----
From: "looly shytrit" <lool-@hotmail.co.il>
To: <et-@freelists.org>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 7:14 PM
Subject: [etni] : LD students in winter bagrut
| | **** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org ****
I need to know where I can find the new bulletin that talks about the
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winter bagrut. I need to know which parts are taken off for LD students-LD
guidelines and mutam tests for winter 2004.
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Thank you,
Hila Shitrit -Hay
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