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Jan 13, 2004 23:45 PST
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etni Digest Tue, 13 Jan 2004 Volume: 02 Issue: 014
In This Issue:
[etni] Re: Educating and Stimulating Our Students
[etni] Opinion piece in online JPost
[etni] Teachers' Guide for the Professional Cartoonists' Ind
[etni] Re: Educating and Stimulating Our Students
[etni] Re: projects and collaboration
[etni] e-mail penpal
[etni] projects, continued. . .
[etni] Re: projects and collaboration
[etni] Projects, fun, learning
[etni] [FWD: Yet another request for Mr Monday Lyrics]
[etni] Mother tongue reading comprehension, June 2004
[etni] [FWD: A rare meeting with the artist Yitzhak Belfer]
[etni] Re: projects and collaboration
[etni] NBA questions
[etni] Tu B'Shvat (The New Year for Trees) on the J Site
[etni] projects in junior high
[etni] Haifa English Theatre
[etni] new magein
[etni] Fw: English teaching
[etni] [FWD: private (remedial) teacher in Northern JErusale
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 23:27:57 +0200
From: Yisrael and Batya Medad <ybme-@netvision.net.il>
Subject: [etni] Re: Educating and Stimulating Our Students
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At 21:41 12/01/04 +0200, Galia Kaspi-Sprung wrote:
| | I still believe that the biggest problem in implementing the projects as
(previously) directed is that we are spending time in high school teaching
our students skills that they should have learned in their native tongue:
summarizing, paraphrasing, research questions, research methods, etc. As
important as these skills are, this is not our job and it is very time
comsuming. I think we too often forget that we are dealing with EFL
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students
Amen, amen! Now how can this be changed?
Batya
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From: "Gary Zone" <gary_-@hotmail.com>
Subject: [etni] Opinion piece in online JPost
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 23:47:45 +0000
In today's online JPost, I found an article titled, "Don't pay students, pay
teachers" by Robert Daniel.
Now there's a novel thought, eh?
Of course, I don't know if I even have a right to an opinion on a competely
Israeli issue, but I thought you all might find the article interesting if
you wanted to see it in its entirety.
Gary/Gershon
Calgary, Canada
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Michael Freund's January 7 op-ed, "Why Not Pay Kids to Stay in School?"
demands a response. Education must be considered a privilege, a required
one, yes, but a privilege nonetheless because it is through society's
compulsory payments of taxes and private funds that each generation of
children is offered the skills and knowledge necessary to enjoy richer and
more fulfilled lives.
Paying kids to go to school reverses this relationship:
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 06:58:32 +0200
From: Yisrael and Batya Medad <ybme-@netvision.net.il>
Subject: [etni] Teachers' Guide for the Professional Cartoonists' Index
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http://cagle.slate.msn.com/teacher/
A fun teaching tool.
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From: "N&M Barbiru" <neha-@bezeqint.net>
Subject: [etni] Re: Educating and Stimulating Our Students
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 06:40:41 +0200
I agree with Galia regarding the implementation of the project work first in
JH and the scope of the work being mini-projects and not one big project.
This being my first year of computer-based projects in my class, I find it
time consuming, but also a lot of fun and interest oriented for the pupils.
Nehama
Galia Wrote
| | I'm beginning to think that it's easier to do the projects in jr. high
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because they are more receptive to these new methods and they're not yet
worried about BAGRUT and more time can be devoted to teaching the "enabling"
skills. So in a few years when these jr. high kids who are doing projects
get to high school, they will be more prepared to deal with the advanced
ENGLISH skills and not have to worry about the enabling skills.
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One last comment - I'm not sure that grandious projects educate and
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stimulate our students more than shorter, less comprehensive but just as
interesting "mini-projects" or task based projects (or whatever name you
want to give them) do.
| | RESEARCH projects can be left for the Hebrew subjects. At least for now.
Galia
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From: "Adele Raemer" <rae-@nirim.co.il>
Subject: [etni] Re: projects and collaboration
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:05:29 +0200
As it is now, kids are required to do projects in one high school class
only. What about doing them in the 10th grade, when they are not so
pressured? Or kill 2 birds with one stone, and do a literature based
project in the 11th grade? That's what I did with a colleague this year,
and we are bery happy with how it turned out. One could do a project based
on poetry and get all 5 poems in (for 5 pointers). THere are ways , with
proper planning, that these projects can be incorporated into our lives
without making them an impossible, torturous chore. Work together in your
NBA courses or you school English departments or even just with other
English teachers who are like-minded. Maybe too many of us are trying to
pull this over on our own, rather than collaborating.
Adele
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From: "Alissa Borsekofsky" <aliss-@hotmail.com>
Subject: [etni] e-mail penpal
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 05:56:49 +0000
I have a pupil in the fourth grade (from a religous school, if that makes a
difference) looking for a penpal. She would like to correspond with a girl
who is also in the fourth grade and preferably from England. (I think the
family is planning a trip.) Any takers? Alissa
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:16:08 +0200
From: Linda <lin-@netvision.net.il>
Subject: [etni] projects, continued. . .
Last year, I did my first project with a 3 point group in 10th grade. I
found that three pointers had a terrible time understanding English off the
Internet (some didn't even realize that they were looking at Brazilian
sites). A great majority of kids in our school don't have computers at home
and it was impossible for each pupil to get a print-out of the site(s) they
found (the school's printer can't handle all the material). There were no
other resources in English available for them, so what was left for them was
translation, which is considered an advanced skill. Most completed the
projects and enjoyed doing them, but I don't think they got much English out
of them.
This year I will try a project with my 5-point 11th grade class, my
lowest level this year, even though they've already stopped doing homework
(the winter Bagruts are here and modular Math is all they can think about).
Again, most do not have computers at home, but at least they will have a
better chance of getting information off the Internet at school. I agree
that kids enjoy projects on subjects that interest them, but one cannot
ignore the difficulties resulting from all the Bagrut tests the kids are
required to take, winter and summer, and their effect on pupil performance
at school. I agree that the best time for projects is probably in 10th
grade.
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From: "avi tsur" <tsur-@hotmail.com>
Subject: [etni] Re: projects and collaboration
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:25:30 +0000
Adele I fully agree with you. There are so many ways of doing projects, so
many different types of projects - it really is very flexible. The
guidelines are very clear and those who think that projects = computers and
internet cannot/will not ever settle down. It can work if only we give it a
chance. English teachers have always shared ideas and maybe this then is the
solution. SEND IN your ideas for the projects that your pupils ARE DOING -
How did you initially present the idea to the class?What ideas THEY came up
with? How was the computer room used (if at all)? What projects did the
pupils manage to do without the computer room (internet)? ..... The list of
ideas is endless.
Adele - as your inspector, I am very proud of you and the staff!! Keep up
the good work.
Avi
| | From: "Adele Raemer" <rae-@nirim.co.il>
Reply-To: rae-@nirim.co.il
To: <et-@freelists.org>
Subject: [etni] Re: projects and collaboration
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:05:29 +0200
**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org ****
As it is now, kids are required to do projects in one high school class
only. What about doing them in the 10th grade, when they are not so
pressured? Or kill 2 birds with one stone, and do a literature based
project in the 11th grade? That's what I did with a colleague this year,
and we are bery happy with how it turned out. One could do a project based
on poetry and get all 5 poems in (for 5 pointers). THere are ways , with
proper planning, that these projects can be incorporated into our lives
without making them an impossible, torturous chore. Work together in your
NBA courses or you school English departments or even just with other
English teachers who are like-minded. Maybe too many of us are trying to
pull this over on our own, rather than collaborating.
Adele
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From: "Sue Jennings" <sue-@hotmail.com>
Subject: [etni] Projects, fun, learning
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:47:45 +0000
Projects can be fun. But to be honest, I am not at all sure that my students
are learning much English from them. They can't write any better than they
did before and I don't notice that they express themselves any better
orally. And if standards are going down, according to university entrances,
what are projects good for (apart from fun)?
I'm asking these questions because of the enthusistic reactions on ETNI, all
having to do with fun. I don't want to dampen the enthusiasm, but I would
like to see evidence that projects serve a purpose other than fun. If they
are learning how to look for information and do research, that is great. But
are they learning English? Can they read and write better because of
projects?
Sue
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 06:06:15 -0700
From: as-@etni.org
Subject: [etni] [FWD: Yet another request for Mr Monday Lyrics]
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Subject: Yet another request for Mr Monday Lyrics
From: "Barry" <bari-@netvision.net.il>
Date: Tue, January 13, 2004 2:42 am
To: as-@etni.org
A REQUEST FOR ‘SYNTHETIC SONG’ LYRICS:
A FEW MONTHS AGO, I APPEARED ‘ON THE LIST’ AS IT WERE, AND ASKED IF
ANYBODY HAD, SQUIRRELED AWAY, ORIGINAL COPIES OF ‘MR MONDAY’ OR
‘ENGLISH LANGUAGE BLUES.’ FOR YOU YOUNGSTERS, THESE ARE RECORD ALBUMS
OF SONGS, RECORDED IN THE ‘70S, TO ASSIST ENGLISH LANGUAGE TEACHERS IN
TEACHING GRAMMAR. SOME OF THEM ARE RECOGNISED AS CLASSICS IN THE
FIELD.
ANYWAY, NOBODY HAD THE ORIGINALS, ALTHOUGH SEVERAL KIND SOULS OFFERED
TO SEND ME THE LYRICS.
I SMUGLY WAVED THEM AWAY AT THE TIME,
BUT NOW, I AM DELUGED BY REQUESTS FOR THES LYRICS, SO PLEASE,
I’M DOWN ON MY KNEES TO YA, BABY,
SEND THEM IF YOU CAN!
Sorry, I kinda got carried away.
Barrry
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Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 05:34:32 +0200
From: Jane Berman <djbe-@nir-ezion.co.il>
Subject: [etni] Mother tongue reading comprehension, June 2004
Dear Everyone,
I know that the 4-pt kids taking the bagrut this June will have a
reading comprehension passage to be answered in their mother tongue.
My question is this: will the Amharic (and other Ethiopian languages)
have examiners who will check their answers? Or, more generally, are there
mother tongues which cannot be used on the exam due to lack of bagrut
examiners in these languages? If so, what should the kids do? Answer in
Hebrew?
I'd like some guidelines, please, just to be sure. Thanks, Jane Berman
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 06:57:14 -0700
From: as-@etni.org
Subject: [etni] [FWD: A rare meeting with the artist Yitzhak Belfer]
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Subject: A rare meeting with the artist Yitzhak Belfer
From: "Miriam Greif" <mgr-@zahav.net.il>
Date: Tue, January 13, 2004 6:20 am
To: as-@etni.org
Dear Colleagues,
We are pleased to invite you to a rare meeting with the artist Yitzhak
Belfer,
graduate of Janus Korzcak's Orphanage, which will take place at Kiryat
Hinuch "Dror"
on Monday, February 2, 2004 at 3 p.m. to 5 pm
Place: Sharon Area - Road No.4 (the old Haifa Road) at the junction
of Dror/Tel Mond)
If you are interested in participating in this session, kindly register
in advance:
Your name, School. and phone number/email.
I can be reached at:
mgr-@zahav.net.il
Tel.: 09-7424794
FAX 09- 7429424
Looking forward to seeing you there,
Miriam Greif
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From: "Bari Nirenberg" <nire-@actcom.co.il>
Subject: [etni] Re: projects and collaboration
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:18:35 +0200
I need to reread the NBA bulletin, but I THINK that when projects become
part of the magen grade (as they were supposed to be already), they have to
be done in the same year that the student takes the module into which the
project is being incorporated. So if you're not sending kids to exams in
10th grade, doing the project in 10th grade will be out.
Bari
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From: etni-b-@freelists.org [mailto:etni-b-@freelists.org]On
Behalf Of Adele Raemer
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 07:05
To: et-@freelists.org
Subject: [etni] Re: projects and collaboration
**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org ****
As it is now, kids are required to do projects in one high school class
only. What about doing them in the 10th grade, when they are not so
pressured?
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:25:23 +0200
From: "Gill & Ralph Schiller" <gil-@012.net.il>
Subject: [etni] NBA questions
2 scenarios:
1) A kid, let's say an 11th grade native speaker, takes modules E, F and G
this summer, passes, and receives a 5 point grade. She then retakes 1 or 2
modules the following year, to improve her grade. Will she then be given a
whole new Bagrut grade, with the new improved scores averaged in? I assume
this is what is supposed to happen.
2) A kid, borderline 3/4 pointer, or 4/5 pointer takes all the modules
needed for both the levels, as insurance in case he doesn't pass at the
higher level. He passes at both levels. What is written in his bagrut
certificate? The higher grade? The higher level? Both?
Does anyone
know?
Gill.
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From: "Jacob Richman" <jric-@jr.co.il>
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:55:26 +0200
Subject: [etni] Tu B'Shvat (The New Year for Trees) on the J Site
Hi Everyone!
Tu B'Shvat, the New Year for Trees, falls on the 15th of the
Hebrew month of Shvat, February 7 this year (5764 / 2004).
February 7 this year is a Shabbat, therefore planting activities
take place on February 5.
This Jewish mini-holiday is of major importance to our appreciation
of Nature and our relationship to it.
The J Site - Jewish Education and Entertainment
<a href="http://www.j.co.il">
http://www.j.co.il
</a>
has several entertaining features to celebrate Tu B'Shvat:
Jewish Trivia Quiz: Tu B'Shvat
Which fruit is used to make wine ?
When did Kabbalists originate the Tu B'shvat Seder ?
How many glasses of wine are drunk at the Tu B'Shvat seder ?
What branch of a tree did the dove bring back after the flood ?
How many days does the Hebrew month of Shvat have ?
What is associated with both Chanukah and Tu B'Shvat ?
In Israel, what happens to trees starting on the 15th of Shvat ?
Since 1901, how many trees has the Jewish National Fund planted in Israel ?
According to the Torah, which fruits did the spies bring to the children of
Israel in the wilderness ?
The above questions are examples from the multiple choice
Flash quiz. There are two levels of questions, two timer settings.
Both kids and adults will find it enjoyable.
Tu B'Shvat Clipart
Whether you need a picture for your child's class project,
a graphic for your synagogue, Hillel or JCC Sukkot
announcement, the Jewish Clipart Database has the pictures
for you. You can copy, save and print the graphics in
three different sizes.
Multilingual Word Search Game: Tu B'Shvat
Enter the Multilingual Word Search game and choose the
language you would like to play in: English, Hebrew or
Russian. There is an easy mode for the kids and a harder
mode for us big kids. Each game is randomly generated.
You can even print out a blank game (and the solution page) for
offline playing. The easy mode was simple? Try the hard mode in
a foreign language with the timer on. Remember that looking at the
solution page is a last resort :-)
My Hebrew Song Book - Tu B'Shvat Hebrew songs (with vowels)
for viewing and printing. All songs are in graphic format so you
do not need Hebrew installed to view or print them.
The J site has something for everyone, but if that is not
enough, I posted on my website 60 links about Tu B'Shvat,
from history and customs to graphics and recipes.
Site languages include English, Hebrew, Russian, Spanish,
French, Portuguese, German and Italian.
The web address is:
<a href="http://www.jr.co.il/hotsites/j-hdaytu.htm">
http://www.jr.co.il/hotsites/j-hdaytu.htm
</a>
Please forward this message to relatives and friends,
so they may benefit from these holiday resources.
Enjoy!
Jacob
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From: "Diane Van-spier" <mays-@hotmail.com>
Subject: [etni] projects in junior high
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:54:25 +0200
For the past few days I have been reading all the comments about doing
projects in English and whether they are beneficial or not. For us, the
junior high school teachers I guess it does seem like fun, but then we have
much more flexability than the high school teachers. I can incorporate all
different types of texts, oral work, computer literacy and allow my students
to let their imaginations run wild. I understand how the high school teacher
feels as the pressure of the bagrut doesn't leave time to experiment as we
can do. I do agree though, with one of the comments that we can prepare the
way for the pupils as they will have to learn how to produce a project for
their bagrut. In the meantime why shouldn't teaching and learning english be
fun in the lower grades - and if a teacher feels happy doing project work
then so be it. It would be great to have all different ideas for projects
solely for junior high as a separate unit in etni. I for one, who has no-one
to bounce ideas off, would love to be able to share with my collegues. As
for how much the students learn I think that depends on the teacher and her
demands. Diane Vanspier
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:06:18 -0700
From: as-@etni.org
Subject: [etni] Haifa English Theatre
Haifa English Theatre presents:
THE FARNDALE TOWNWOMEN'S GUILD DRAMATIC SOCIETY MURDER MYSTERY
a comedy by David McGillivary and Walter Zerlin Jr.
directed by John Dicks
Thur. Jan. 29 20:30
Sat. Jan. 31 20:30
Tue. Feb. 3 17:30
Thur. Feb. 5 20:30
Sat. Feb. 7 20:30
Prices: NIS 55
NIS 45 (HET members, Friends of the Museum, BWC, AACI, soldiers, students
and groups)
Tickets: Haifa Museum of Art, 26 Shabtai Levi, Hadar or 04-852-3255 during
Museum hours and on performance evenings.
For group rates and tickets (more than 10 people), please contact Production
Manager Kenny Cina (067-603-022).
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From: "Sharon Tzur" <sharo-@barak-online.net>
Subject: [etni] new magein
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:43:44 +0200
unofficial answer to the question - can a student who does winter bagrut get
a new bagrut grade for the summer bagrut.
Your student can get a new magein in the spring provided that he/she
continues to study English. However, the old magein grade is supposed to be
given 25% weight when you make up the new bagrut grade.
From Moed Aleph to Moed Bet (if there is a moed bet this year), a new bagrut
grade cannot be given.
Yours,
Sharon Tzur
My home on the Net
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From: "Ask Etni" <as-@etni.org>
Subject: [etni] Fw: English teaching
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 08:39:54 +0200
Post your ETNI Ad
Gordon Milmine
gor-@ezysurf.co.nz
I am a principal of an Elementary school in New Zealand. I hope to travel to
Israel in 2005. Is it possible that I could do some English teaching any
where in Israel? Please let me know. Thank you.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 23:48:57 -0700
From: as-@etni.org
Subject: [etni] [FWD: private (remedial) teacher in Northern JErusalem]
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Subject: private (remedial) teacher in Northern JErusalem
From: "Judy Givati" <jes-@netvision.net.il>
Date: Tue, January 13, 2004 10:44 pm
To: as-@etni.org
Hi !
I'm looking for a private remedial teacher for a bright, curious
SSN
( formerly, LD ) pupil who lives in one of the northern Jerusalem
neighbourhoods (not far from Ramat Eshkol ) but whose parents are
willing to
drive anywhere in JErusalem, ... twice a week...
Please reply to this or call me at 53 53 205
Thanks, jesg
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