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Re: A short ending to the MD Lotion trial
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ian macnab
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Jan 28, 2009 06:35 PST
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Hello Martin, I live in Honiton, I have been all over the place, Scotland ,
Yorkshire, Blackpool, some people are convinced Sandra and I are on the run,
or in witness protection ha ha !! I have been to Plymouth a few times, not
a bad place , where are you in Oz ? and how long have you been there ? we
managed to get out twice to see my daughter , she lived in Sydney at first
and now has moved out to a new development called Voyager point , used to be
owned by the Goverment for the army I think , beautiful. I loved the country
, would move tomorrow if I was'nt so old and skint !! ha ha !! it is the
place I would reccomend anyone thinking of moving abroad to go to Oz rules
!!!! Incidently. I have had a vein removed from my left leg, it was about 4
years ago now, like you I inherited it from my mother , it was a fairly
routine procedure, had to wear a surgical type stocking for a couple or
three weeks , got over it although I havea bit of calf cramp ever since,
but I can live with that a doddle compared with this rotten feeling i have
most days I just hope things begin to improve, I know from reading all the
mail going back and forwards that you have been a real hero as far as trying
to help your Brothers improve theit lives Martin, so I wish you the best
of luck with your future treatments , and I hope that you and Val can have a
great future together, taks care mate and stay well
Ian ----- Original Message -----
From: "martin yalden" <myal-@bigpond.net.au>
To: <hypogo-@topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: A short ending to the MD Lotion trial
| | Hi Ian
My dislike for the injections is just a personal preference, so please do
not be put off. I spent so long going back and forth to the docs for the
implants and getting the time sequence right, I am just over it. The gel
for
me, now being second rate to the trial product, is just simplistic. I have
heard from many guys who are on the injections and would have nothing
else.
Just go for what YOU are happy with. Anyway what part of Devon do you
live.
Val and I spent two years in Plymouth, in fact we got married there
martin.
-----Original Message-----
From: ian macnab [mailto:ian.m-@virgin.net]
Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 1:15 AM
To: hypogo-@topica.com
Subject: Re: A short ending to the MD Lotion trial
Hi Martin, Ian here ( Devon UK ) what is your dislike of injections
based
on ? I am due to start on them next Tuesday Feb. 3rd >>> now you have me
a
little worried !!! I was hoping for some good results , Take careof
yourself Regards Ian
----- Original Message -----
From: "martin yalden" <myal-@bigpond.net.au>
To: "Tc-net" <tc--@listserv.acor.org>; <hypogo-@topica.com>;
<flatba-@topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 5:12 AM
Subject: A short ending to the MD Lotion trial
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Hi Guys
Unfortunately I have been taken of the trial for the MD -Lotion due to
thrombophlebitis in my right leg. Meaning the veracious veins I inherited
from my mother and smashing up that leg thirty years ago in a motorcycle
accident, the main vein decided to let go. If I had any, I would say one
of
my nuts has dropped behind the knee, but it is not, so, I have to have
surgery as soon as possible.
Regardless, the trial has been interesting. What with the daily report
forms
to fill in then being a lab rat, for a thirty six hour period where blood
tests are done every four hours, exactly on the minute, meals are served
exactly X amount of minutes after the blood test was very strange. Where
I
was, different trials were under the way. Most who were in there were
backpackers. I bumped into guys from France, Ireland, Canada and the
States
who were touring OZ and were after quick easy money. A bed for a few
nights
and a feed. Now I am back on Testogel .. And what a pain it is. Compared
with the MD-Lotion it is long winded, time consuming and messy. The MD-
Lotion by the way was applied in liquid form under the armpits, done in
seconds. The correct dosage for me was not assessed, though I will add
that
I could feel that my levels were too low, so double dosing with the
product,
would have been awkward. Maybe when it is released different 'strengths'
will be available.
This Thursday I attend a summary of my part in the trial, hand in my
dosage
report and Psychosexual Questionnaire. One thing I noted was that when
my
levels were below one [Oz levels go from seven being very low to a high
of
thirty] nothing rattled me. Maybe it was because I was too tired to be
so.
Once on the lotion, I started to get wound up which I put down to being
still tied and well below what I should be. Now I am back on my normal
dosage I feel much better, though with two packs of the Testolgel I am
still
below the levels that I should be. My last blood test on the gel was 14
and
the Endo wants me to be at least up around twenty. I do too, as I know I
can feel better that I am now. I will be able to have a chat with her on
Thursday.
The conclusion of it all is I am glad I was able to take part in this
clinical trial. The suggestions I was given as to how I might feel being
totally off all replacement for thirty days certainly opened my eyes a
touch
wider and very much helped. It also gave me the insight that there will
always be a better product being developed. For any of you who might in
the
future take part in one, it is not for the money, which ain't much. Do it
to
be part of something that may one day improve yours or someone else's
future. I have no intention of having the injections, fortnightly or
three
monthly. I think being on the implants put paid to that, but before I
tried
the MD-Lotion I thought Testogel was the bees knees. Boy I can't wait for
the new product to be on the market.
martin
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