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RE: What Price Israel
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Chip Kempston
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Aug 07, 2007 12:24 PDT
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--- elya-@prodigy.net.mx wrote:
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> > I don't expect you to accept what I
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said
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> > I'll keep looking
> > but what would you say is the reason
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the
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> > been discriminated
> > against all these years since you
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won'r
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> > I found?
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> > I hardly think the Mulims or any
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other
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> > loving people. In my opinion,
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humans
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> > animal on the planet
> > whether they be jew, christian,
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muslim
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> > Why would you say,
> > the Muslims had it coming to them
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(regarding
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> > did the Muslims 'have it coming'?
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> > Yes, the Jews have been persecuted.
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WHY?
| | | | | | >Remember,
> > it was the Jews who
> > (allegedly) came into Canaan and
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killed
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> > book says).
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> > It all comes back to, How much is
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Israel
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> > dollars, lives, arms,
> > legs, eyes, brains, genitals and
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freedoms?
| | | | | | >> > Ian Dorion
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> CHIP:
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> The same reason most groups are
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discriminated
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> - they're easy targets, and easy for
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any
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problems
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> world. The good old bugbear. But for
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the
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> it's what's commanded in their holy
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book.
| | | | | | | | That's
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> I do tend to agree with you that
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humans in
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> pretty nasty.
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IAN
Are you going to sit there and tell me
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that
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Book to kill the Arabs (also known as
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Canaanites
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| | >Palestinians)?
Ian Dorion
CHIP:
I think you'd be hard pressed to make a
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connection
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ethnic
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a
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ethical.
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IAN
I think you are being argumentative Chip.
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The
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there for centuries unless you can prove
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otherwise.
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much more difficult time proving all 5.2
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million
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which live outside of Israel) are
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descendants of
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dispersed from Palestine. Of course, you
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don't
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do you?
Ian Dorion
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CHIP:
Yup, I agree. I couldn't prove that either,
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or
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time
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position.
| | | | | | You're the one claiming that Israel is the
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source
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IAN
I never said 'toward the world', I said toward
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the
| | | | US. Now please tell
me how many kidnappings, hijackings, bombings
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and
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activities have taken place before the UN
partitioned Israel and before
the US supported Israel. As far as the Israeli
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Jews
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can't prove it because the Jews themselves can't
prove it.
Ian Dorion
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CHIP:
Uh, it's been going on since Muhammad had a
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visitation
IAN
You sound like McDonald defending the Bible except
you aren't as good as
he is. ĄShow me where they were attacking the US!
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CHIP:
Uh, ok. How does that sound like McDonald? It's a
historically verifiable fact that Islam was spread by
the sword, and anybody who stood in the way was
attacked, raided, or otherwise beaten into submission.
How is this so different from what they're trying to
do now? The only real difference is the technology
and the distance. Instead of bows, arrows, swords and
spears, it's guns, bombs, buses, and airplanes. And
instead of the next village, we're several thousand
miles away. Same purpose, just a different set of
tools and circumstances; the motive is the same: get
everyone to submit to Islamic rule.
The U.S. is simply another infidel nation that stands
in their way. Why is this hard to understand? Why do
you need Israel's existence as a motive? Islamic
terrorism has existed since shortly after Mohammad had
his first hallucination.
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