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RE: Two questions  Sarver, John H (DLEG)
 Aug 31, 2004 05:14 PDT 

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Dan.....I looked at the two levels of siting requirements and made a
judgement about what would be appropriate for machines in that middle
range of sizes. For example, a 200 kW machine was being considered for
a residential development and it didn't seem that the more detailed
requirements should apply in that situation.......John



-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel a. [mailto:galactic-@nethere.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 12:37 AM
To: mw-@topica.com
Subject: Re: LTU Wind Delphi: Two questions



RE: Lawrence Tech's Wind Energy Siting Delphi

Tom,

Do you know why Michigan decided on 300 KW for the definition of small
turbines? Why are we using a different definition than the other states?

-daniel





Daniel Alberts
Lawrence Tech's Wind Delphi Project
dja1-@nethere.com


From: "Stanton, Thomas S (DLEG)" <tsta-@michigan.gov>

Reply-To: mw-@topica.com
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:37:23 -0400
To: mw-@topica.com
Subject: RE: LTU Wind Delphi: Two questions



RE: Lawrence Tech's Wind Energy Siting Delphi
My reactions:

(1) Use Michigan guideline of less than 300 kW.

(2) Use two different mutually exclusive scenarios in your
questions: (a) individual machines, on-site, primarily for providing
electricity to be used on site; versus (b) machines intended for making
money through the sale of electricity... which covers utility scale
applications and "wind farms".

--Tom S.

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel a. [mailto:galactic-@nethere.com]
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 3:11 PM
To: Michigan Wind Working Group
Subject: LTU Wind Delphi: Two questions

RE: Lawrence Tech's Wind Energy Siting DelphiFolks,

I need some help determining what would be the best definition
for 'small' turbines for our Delphi Inquiry. Seems each state has
defined small turbines differently.

California:      400 W - 100 KW
Michigan:       less than 300 KW
New York:       less than 250 KW
Oregon:            500 W - 10 KW

The reason this question could be important is that while I was
researching the other states' guidelines, I discovered that there could
potentially be 4 different scales of project.

*         onsite residential/agricultural

*         onsite industrial

*         utility vendors with single turbine or distributed
systems utility

*         wind farms


Answers to questions about noise, setbacks, foundations,
compatible land uses, etc. could potentially be very different for each
of these project scales. Survey questions need to be clear about which
scale of project they refer to. (Are the words 'large' and 'small'
inadequate for our needs?)

Which leads to a second question. If our Delphi surveys becomes
too large, we might have to focus our efforts on one or two of these
project scales. How should we prioritize these four project scales?

-Daniel


Daniel Alberts
Lawrence Tech's Wind Delphi Project
dja1-@nethere.com










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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dan…..I looked at the two levels of siting
requirements and made a judgement about what would be appropriate for machines
in that middle range of sizes.  For example, a 200 kW machine was being
considered for a residential development and it didn’t seem that the more
detailed requirements should apply in that situation…….John</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Daniel a.
[mailto:galactic-@nethere.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, August 31, 2004
12:37 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> mw-@topica.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: LTU Wind Delphi: Two
questions</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt'>RE: Lawrence Tech's Wind Energy Siting Delphi</span></font></pre>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Tom, <br>
<br>
Do you know why Michigan decided on 300 KW for the definition of small
turbines? Why are we using a different definition than the other states?<br>
<br>
-daniel</span></font></p>

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<br>
Daniel Alberts<br>
Lawrence Tech's Wind Delphi Project<br>
dja1-@nethere.com<br>
<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From: </span></b>"Stanton, Thomas S
(DLEG)" <tsta-@michigan.gov></span></font></p>

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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Date: </span></b>Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:37:23
-0400<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To: </span></b>mw-@topica.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject: </span></b>RE: LTU Wind Delphi: Two
questions</p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>RE: Lawrence Tech's Wind Energy Siting Delphi <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'>My reactions:<br>
</span></font><br>
<font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>(1) Use Michigan guideline of less than 300 kW.  <br>
</span></font><br>
<font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>(2) Use two different mutually exclusive scenarios in your
questions: (a) individual machines, on-site, primarily for providing
electricity to be used on site; versus (b) machines intended for making money
through the sale of electricity... which covers utility scale applications and
"wind farms".  <br>
</span></font><br>
<font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>--Tom S.  </span></font></p>

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.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Daniel a.
[mailto:galactic-@nethere.com]<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 30, 2004 3:11
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Michigan Wind Working Group<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LTU Wind Delphi: Two
questions<br>
<br>
</span></font>RE: Lawrence Tech's Wind Energy Siting DelphiFolks,<br>
<br>
I need some help determining what would be the best definition for 'small'
turbines for our Delphi Inquiry.  Seems each state has defined small
turbines differently. <br>
<br>
California:      400 W - 100 KW<br>
Michigan:       less than 300 KW<br>
New York:       less than 250 KW<br>
Oregon:            500 W
- 10 KW<br>
<br>
The reason this question could be important is that while I was researching the
other states' guidelines, I discovered that there could potentially be 4
different scales of project.</p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
face=Symbol><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·<font
size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>        
</span></font></span></font>onsite residential/agricultural </p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
face=Symbol><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·<font
size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>        
</span></font></span></font>onsite industrial </p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
face=Symbol><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·<font
size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>        
</span></font></span></font>utility vendors with single turbine or distributed
systems utility </p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
face=Symbol><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·<font
size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>        
</span></font></span></font>wind farms</p>

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.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
Answers to questions about noise, setbacks, foundations, compatible land uses,
etc. could potentially be very different for each of these project scales.
Survey questions need to be clear about which scale of project they refer to.
(Are the words 'large' and 'small' inadequate for our needs?)<br>
<br>
Which leads to a second question. If our Delphi surveys becomes too large, we
might have to focus our efforts on one or two of these project scales.
 How should we prioritize these four project scales? <br>
<br>
-Daniel<br>
<br>
<br>
Daniel Alberts<br>
Lawrence Tech's Wind Delphi Project<br>
dja1-@nethere.com<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span></font></p>

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