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RE: Get out of your car fatso.
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Vince Camiolo (Silver Cat Studios)
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Aug 05, 2004 10:31 PDT
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Cool. Thanks for that insight.
I think you're right, as far as priorities go. It's pretty much ingrained
in our culture. We live in a very automobile-oriented society. It's come
to the point where, it's not that people wouldn't use bike lanes, but people
don't even consider alternative transportation. Many people probably have
never even seen a bike lane on a road.
If a developer thinks it's more practical to forego bike lanes, since the
demand
is most likely small, I don't see any reason he should (I'm being a devil's
advocate).
Bicycles just have to be introduced more aggressively as a viable means of
transport.
People have to demand areas that are bicycle friendly. Then as property
values rise in
areas with bike lanes, developers will be forced (motivated by the same
principles they
are now by not constructing bike lanes) to include bike lanes.
Ok, now that I've obviously broken new ground with this completely
innovative revelation,
we can all rest easy knowing it will happen without any action on our
parts. Whew. Glad
that's over.
At 05:15 PM 8/5/2004 +0000, you wrote:
| | Being a Civil Engineer, road design is part of what I do. Many
developers complain that it is a lot more expensive to add bike lanes,
etc., especially since it takes about 12 more feet of right of way
(meaning 12 less feet along the roadway that they can develop).
Personally, I don't feel it adds that much cost, relative to the total
cost of development, and I think it adds value in terms of quality of
life. It just depends on where you put your priorities. Here in the
states, the priority seems to be on making a profit and sitting on your
fat ass.
Vince Camiolo (Silver Cat Studios) wrote:
Is it that much more
| | expensive to figure in a bike lane when constructing a road?
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Cool. Thanks for that insight.<br><br>
I think you're right, as far as priorities go. It's pretty much
ingrained<br>
in our culture. We live in a very automobile-oriented society. It's
come<br>
to the point where, it's not that people wouldn't use bike lanes, but
people<br>
don't even consider alternative transportation. Many people probably
have<br>
never even seen a bike lane on a road.<br><br>
If a developer thinks it's more practical to forego bike lanes, since the
demand<br>
is most likely small, I don't see any reason he should (I'm being a
devil's advocate).<br><br>
Bicycles just have to be introduced more aggressively as a viable means
of transport.<br>
People have to demand areas that are bicycle friendly. Then as property
values rise in<br>
areas with bike lanes, developers will be forced (motivated by the same
principles they<br>
are now by not constructing bike lanes) to include bike lanes.<br><br>
Ok, now that I've obviously broken new ground with this completely
innovative revelation,<br>
we can all rest easy knowing it will happen without any action on our
parts. Whew. Glad<br>
that's over.<br><br>
At 05:15 PM 8/5/2004 +0000, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Being a Civil Engineer, road design
is part of what I do. Many <br>
developers complain that it is a lot more expensive to add bike lanes,
<br>
etc., especially since it takes about 12 more feet of right of way <br>
(meaning 12 less feet along the roadway that they can develop). <br>
Personally, I don't feel it adds that much cost, relative to the total
<br>
cost of development, and I think it adds value in terms of quality of
<br>
life. It just depends on where you put your priorities. Here
in the <br>
states, the priority seems to be on making a profit and sitting on your
<br>
fat ass.<br><br>
<br><br>
<br>
Vince Camiolo (Silver Cat Studios) wrote:<br>
Is it that much more <br>
| | expensive to figure in a bike lane when constructing a road?<br>
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