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RE: Get out of your car fatso.
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Gummi Bear
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Oct 19, 2005 09:55 PDT
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Not necessarily; if there is no destination, or the road that is crossing to has not yet been
improved. So long as the crosswalks are ADA compliant, future improvements will allow them to not
create new sidewalks on the unimproved area until it is developed.
FWIW - I live in the largest city in North America without a public transportation system.
Getting around here is a bear on a bike. You have to be a very aggressive mentality when you
throw your leg over the bike and hit the streets.
--- Obi-Ron <ro-@realbicycles.com> wrote:
| | If they put in a crosswalk with out building pedestrian facilities they
are in violation of the ADA.
Ron
Vince Camiolo (Silver Cat Studios) wrote:
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| | is it true then that in many american towns it is becoming increasingly
common for roads to be built without sidewalks and it is becoming
technically impossible to get around the place without having a car?
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You're exactly right. It boggles my mind. They just constructed a new
road
in my town, while widening an existing road. Not only did they neglect
to
build a sidewalk on the new road, but they eliminated the sidewalk and
even
the shoulder on the existing road. Worse yet, they put a crosswalk at
the
traffic light, with nowhere to cross to!
| | one of the major reasons sited in britain for reliance on cars is that
the
public transport system is so appalling crap, (and it is, mind numbingly
bad whilst our French cousins across the water have a public transport
system you could eat your dinner off), is that also the case in the
states?
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It varies from city to city. Some public trans is considerably better
than
others, but there is one common denominator in all cities: not enough
funding. The funding that goes to automobile-oriented transportation,
versus mass trans and alternative trans is astronomically lopsided.
My girlfriend was just in Denmark where she visited a transportation
museum. When they plan road construction, they take 3 factors into
account,
all given the same importance: bicycle lane, pedestrian lane,
automobile.
I just have a hard time comprehending priorities. Is it that much more
expensive to figure in a bike lane when constructing a road?
| | bikes eh? aren;t they great?
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They are. If only there was somewhere to ride them without the fear of
being run down by a monstrosity of an SUV.
-vince-
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<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>is it true then that in many
american towns it is becoming increasingly common for roads to be built
without sidewalks and it is becoming technically impossible to get
around
the place without having a car?</blockquote><br>
You're exactly right. It boggles my mind. They just constructed a new
road in my town, while widening an existing road. Not only did they
neglect to build a sidewalk on the new road, but they eliminated the
sidewalk and even the shoulder on the existing road. Worse yet, they put
a crosswalk at the traffic light, with nowhere to cross to!<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>one of the major reasons sited in
britain for reliance on cars is that the public transport system is so
appalling crap, (and it is, mind numbingly bad whilst our French cousins
across the water have a public transport system you could eat your
dinner
off), is that also the case in the states?</blockquote><br>
It varies from city to city. Some public trans is considerably better
than others, but there is one common denominator in all cities: not
enough funding. The funding that goes to automobile-oriented
transportation, versus mass trans and alternative trans is
astronomically
lopsided.<br><br>
My girlfriend was just in Denmark where she visited a transportation
museum. When they plan road construction, they take 3 factors into
account, all given the same importance: bicycle lane, pedestrian lane,
automobile. <br><br>
I just have a hard time comprehending priorities. Is it that much more
expensive to figure in a bike lane when constructing a road?<br><br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>bikes eh? aren;t they great?<br>
</blockquote><br>
They are. If only there was somewhere to ride them without the fear of
being run down by a monstrosity of an SUV. <br><br>
-vince-<br>
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