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RE: Fw: "dark horse"(revised)
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STAHLKE, HERBERT F
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Sep 13, 2009 20:25 PDT
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While I agree with Sue, the interesting question is why "dark horse" is does not get the tonic accent. The absence of accent on that and the emphasis on the copula invites us to infer that dark horse status is relevant to the immediate context, not new information to be introduced to it.
Herb
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From: sues [mailto:su-@xtra.co.nz]
Sent: 2009-09-13 21:08
To: phone-@topica.com
Subject: Re: [phonlist] Fw: "dark horse"(revised)
Dear Tami
doesn't it express suprise, particulary the unexpectedness of (in this case) the buying of a car. Meaning, contrary to what i expected of Jack (i.e. he is not a dark horse) it turns out he IS a dark horse.
Cheers
Sue Sullivan
Christchurch
New Zealand
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From: 伊達 <mn8-@fiberbit.net>
To: phone-@topica.com
Sent: Sunday, 13 September, 2009 8:10:10 AM
Subject: [phonlist] Fw: "dark horse"(revised)
Dear all
I'd appreciate your comments on the accent pattern of the underlined parts below:
(1) A: The Joneses have ˈgot a new car.
B: Have they, indeed. ˈWhat model is it, dear?
A: Oh, I don’t ˏknow. It's a pale blue.
B: B: Well, well. Old Ted IS a dark horse. I was only talking cars with him the other night.
A: And he didn't mention it?
B: Not a word. (adapted from Jack Windsor Lewis phonetic blog #209)
(2) A: I've just got engaged to Sheila.
B: Well! You ARE a dark horse. (adapted from O'Connor and Arnold (1973: 220))
Would you tell me why the be-verb has the nuclear accent whereas 'dark horse' fails to be accented?
Thank you very much in advance.
Best wishes
Tami
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