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Re: Yomiuri article on CSA 18 Exhibition Match
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TAKIZAWA Takenobu
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Jul 10, 2008 01:32 PDT
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Dear Mark:
Thank you for your reply.
Message-ID: <1107017659-1463792126-1215620789@boing.topica.com>
From: Mark Schreiber <mark_sc-@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:26:25 +0000
Subject: RE: Yomiuri article on CSA 18 Exhibition Match
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Dear Takenobu Takizawa,
Thank you the information about the 6 games. I wonder why your email did
not post to the shogi list?
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Well, I think I did post it to the shogi-l mailing list...
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Has someone translated the articles by Kato and Shimizugami in the
Yomiuri Shimbun (Newspaper)?
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I do not know. I read it on Japanese version of the Yomiuri shimbun
(Newspaper).
| | I found information about Gekisashi at the 18th Amateur Ryo tournament.
Reijer Grimbergen wrote in the shogi list that Gekisashi played 5 games.
Gekisashi beat Okamoto and Ogawa in the preliminaries. Gekisashi beat
Ogawa again and lost to Tanaka in the knock-out. Gekisashi beat Nara
amateur 6-dan from Shinoda in an exhibition game. He did not say
Gekisashi played Kato.
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Actually, after beaten by Tanaka, Gekisashi beat Shinoda amateur 6 dan
from Nara prefecture. Then Gekisashi played against Kato (and was
beaten).
Takenobu Takizawa
| | Mark Schreiber
----- Original Message -----
From: "TAKIZAWA Takenobu"
To: <sho-@topica.com>; Mark Schreiber
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 3:19 AM
Subject: Re: Yomiuri article on CSA 18 Exhibition Match
| | Dear Mark:
I am writing some information.
Message-ID: <13004025-1463747838-1215463175@boing.topica.com>
From: Mark Schreiber <mark_sc-@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:39:32 +0000
Subject: Yomiuri article on CSA 18 Exhibition Match
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I saw an article about the exhibition games of the CSA 18 in the online
Yomiuri newspaper. The article was �Can advanced shogi software
defeat
professional players?� June 27, 2008
The article said �Kato, 26, and Shimizugami, 28, both sixth-grade
amateur players, had beaten the software in their previous six
games�.
What previous 6 games are they talking about?
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(1) June 26, 2005. The 18th Amateur Ryo tournament exhibition game
Kato vs. Gekisashi (40 min + 40 sec byoyomi)
(2) March 8, 2006. Special event at the 68th IPSJ annual conference
Shimizugami vs. Gekisashi (40 min + 40 sec byoyomi)
(3) May 5, 2006. The 16th WCSC exhibition game
Kato vs. Bonanz (15 min + 30 sec byoyomi)
(4),(5) November 18, 2006. Special event on Bonanza commercial version
release, two games
Shimizugami vs. Bonanza, and Kato vs. Bonanza
(20 min + 30 sec byoyomi, each)
(6) May 5, 2007. The 17th WCSC exhibition game
Kato vs. YSS (15 min + 30 sec byoyomi)
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Kato said "This time, the software made no wasteful moves". Sounds like
Kato was expecting the computer to be weaker. Maybe he did not prepared
enough.
Yoshimasa Tsuruoka said �it will take two to three years for it
to catch
up with lower class professional players in one-hour games. I hope it
will reach the level of Ryuo and Meijin tournament title holders in five
to six years.�
Meanwhile, Akira Watanabe, said "I will defeat shogi software for the
next 10 years". A tournament with Akira Watanabe would be interesting. I
hope such a tournament will be permitted.
Did Kato and Shimizugami analyze their exhibition games at the CSA
tournament?
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They are writing a couple of articles on the Yomiuri Shimbun
(Newspaper).
Takenobu Takizawa
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