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RE: Topica, Yahoo and Google listservs
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Stuart Nibbelin
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Jun 17, 2007 00:45 PDT
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can we focus on RAAM for the next few days????
- Stuart
To: umc-@aol.com; ultrac-@topica.com; ultracy-@googlegroups.com; ultracycl-@yahoogroups.comFrom: clis-@hotmail.comSubject: RE: [UC] Topica, Yahoo and Google listservsDate: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 05:14:10 +0000
John,. The overall goal is to improve communications for the community------------ you are so full of bullshit your eyes are brown.Cheers,Charlie Liskey
To: ultrac-@topica.com; ultracy-@googlegroups.com; ultracycl-@yahoogroups.comFrom: UMC-@aol.comSubject: [UC] Topica, Yahoo and Google listservsDate: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:14:44 -0400First, let me apologize for a miscommunication between Terry Brown, the listserv manager and me. As we announced at the beginning of May our long-run plan is to migrate the Topica list to Yahoo because of increasing technical problems with Topica. Terry prematurely turned off the Topica listserv. As soon as I found out, I asked him to turn Topica back on. I apologize for any inconvenience.Please take a few minutes to read through the entire plan. The Executive Committee of the UMCA put it together in the interests of promoting full and open discussion of any and all issues . . . while at the same time providing a forum dedicated to the discussion of ultracycling.I. Two complementary forums:Last February we established the concept of two different domains for discussion.The town square is an important forum for discussion of whatever issues the subscribers wish to discuss. Free speech reigns. Anybody can walk into the square and talk about anything. UMCA politics, the e-mail chat lists, ultracycling, RAAM, etc., etc. It's important to maintain this forum and the UMCA supports this forum.Responding to requests from members we also established a second forum where the conversation is limited to ultracycling. Some members perceive that the first forum is dominated by political discussions without much discussion of the sport itself.The town square is the Topica listservWe set up the rec center on Google at: ultracy-@googlegroups.com At my request Terry invited everyone on Topica to join the group. . . . but if someone starts talking politics we'll ask you to leave.Currently the Google group has about 400 members and 464 open invitations. This is a forum where a person's political opinions truly don't matter. As long as someone wants to talk about ultracycling itself he or she is welcome. For example, some candidates for the Board of Directors have chosen to join the forum, e.g., Nick Gerlich, Mavis Irwin and Doug Sloan; others have chosen not to join.II Migration to YahooAbout six weeks ago people started complaining loudly about the Topica service — slow posts, redundant posts, etc. I asked Terry Brown to set up:New Town square at Yahoo. We can still talk politics, ultracycling, RAAM, etc. However there are a couple of new limitations: no personal attacks and no offensive language. Terry sent everyone on Topica an invititation to join the new Town Square at Yahoo. Terry's also setting up access to the Topica archives. Why Yahoo? The recent thread on Topica shows the potential for confusion between the two different chat groups. . . and having both the Rec Center and the Town Hall on Google would be *very* confusing. We often say "I read . . " or "I posted . . ." on Topica. And we say the same about the rec center "I read . . ." "I saw . . . " on Google. We'll keep the distinction clean by having the town square on Yahoo.In sum:The UMCA is committed to maintaining both forums because each serves a legitimate purpose.The new Town Square is open at: http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/ultracycling-talkTopica will close on July 1.The Rec Center is open at: http://groups.google.com/group/ultracyclists?hl=enAll UMCA announcements will be posted to Google. If it seems appropriate an announcement may also be posted to Yahoo.Everyone got an invitation to join the Rec Center at Google in February.Everyone got an invitation to join the new Town Square at Yahoo in May.You are free to join either one, both, or none. If someone deleted the original e-mail of invitation, please send a note to Terry. Tell him *exactly* which list(s) you want to join and he will invite you: bro-@hughes.netFor further information on the concept of the two forums please go to:ultracycling.com/about/umca_communications.htmlThank you for your patience in the migration to Yahoo. The overall goal is to improve communications for the community.cheers,John HughesManaging DirectorUltraMarathon Cycling AssociationPO Box 18028Boulder, CO 80308-102-@ultracycling.comwww.ultracycling.com**************************************See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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